Yeah... I know. /sigh.

For example, if I was integrating the two I'd love to hear a camper talk about how they learned to respect people from different areas and different backgrounds and then you see the quote "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Something that says the lessons they are learning are positive in the world.

Well, that would be a wonderful lesson. Maybe I'll do something like that next summer in honour of you.

What is it particularly about the website that turns you off?

What you should know is that this is a canadian baptist camp. If you had any connection with that community of people, you would know that you are not talking about something over-the-top charismatic like Jesus Camp. When I saw Jesus Camp, it struck me as highly American in it's approach to Christianity. God Bless America? God has blessed America!! How is America doing at blessing the rest of the world?

Hermosa is pretty low key in its faith component actually. There is morning flag raising with a short message from the bible, a bible study with singing for about an hour each day, a short evening reflection time at vesper point looking out over the lake, and then your cabin leader will lead in some kind of faith discussion before you go to sleep. That's the faith component in a typical day. The rest of the day is spent in all sorts of camp activites and games.

For positive stuff, last summer I did a lesson on serving other people. I hooked up with the cook at camp and had the kids all bake cookies in their groups. Then they had to take them to the cottagers who live nearby. The cottagers have to put up with our traffic all summer. I talked to several and they said it was the first time the camp had ever done anything for them.

If you want to know that kind of stuff, just ask. I would hope that you wouldn't send your kid to a camp based solely on the website. I'd hope you'd have the sense to call first.

But, you know what I will do? I will take your suggestion to the camp and see if I can get some stories like this one put up on the website. Maybe that's the kind of thing you are looking for. They used to have a typical day outlined on there, but I don't see it anymore.