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Gandol teh Pirate

Al Franken certified as winner

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06-30-09 6:29 PM

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Maybe nobody cares anymore since this news came much earlier today, but Al Franken has finally been certified as the junior senator from Minnesota.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...s/politics-capitol_hill/

The article says Coleman conceded, but only after the state's high court unanimously ruled against him. This is the same guy who publicly admonished Franken for not conceding before a recount for the very tight race even started. Eight months later, Coleman finally takes his own advice when there's no avenue left to him. What a dink.

Commentary aside, does anybody here have an opinion of Franken or what his role as the 60th caucusing Democrat will mean to political events going forward? My general impression of him from having heard some of his stuff on Air America in the past is that he's actually pretty damn smart about policy issues, political machinations, and the like. He was a lot more interesting to listen to than he was entertaining from a humorous standpoint.

Tom (and Diane)

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06-30-09 6:39 PM

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I predict it will mean exactly what one would expect from when a party line liberal gives the Democrats a filibuster-proof majority. Big spending, big government programs will be passed willy-nilly, with no nod to bipartisanship beyond trying to score political points when the Republicans don't cooperate with said programs.

Plenty of socialism will be coming down the pike...Uncle Sugar will be taking charge of our lives, because we poor humans just can't live without his "help."

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Physic FormerlyHasRez

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06-30-09 7:28 PM

does anybody here have an opinion of Franken

i think he's a flaming douchebag.

or what his role as the 60th caucusing Democrat will mean to political events going forward

i do not think he's going to matter a whole lot one way or the other.

his role as a junior senator is to sit in the corner, shut up, and vote the way he's told. it appears the republican strategy is to get out of the way of the absolute foolishness the administration is chasing down on the domestic front, so i'm not sure how valuable the supermajority is going to be for the next year.

midterm elections would be a bit more interesting of a topic to debate since rolland burris should be up for election and unlikely to retain his seat-the question on burris is would he be taken out in the primaries or could the state come up with a republican better than alan keys.

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ZydallonTrismegistus

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06-30-09 9:46 PM

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Franken is smart. But he's also a whiney douchebag that can't seem to control his mouth on occasions. I expect him to embarrass the Dems at some point by shooting off said mouth.

As to the super majority. Very bad juju for either side ot have it. Given the side that currently does, I'd hope common sense might kick in, but I won't be surprised if at the end of the day there's less money in my pocket and more gummint interference in various aspects of my life.

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vizco

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07-01-09 6:53 AM

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There are enough (barely) centrist Democrats that having 60 seats doesn't mean they can do anything they want to. One extra far-left guy will definitely help them screw things up more, though.

Franken has a big mouth, a high opinion of himself, and contempt for anyone who disagrees with him. He would be right at home on this forum but he'll be useless as a Senator. I think there's something strange in the water in Minnesota.

"You can't reason someone out of something they weren't reasoned into." - Jonathan Swift

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Muerta

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07-01-09 8:21 AM

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Very strange water, indeed!

I think that many Democrats look at this guy and say, shoo. While I would love a filibuster proof Senate for two years (it won't be next election run through), he is not who I would have chosen.

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The despicable, vile, traitorous, democrat motherfuckers in the house just rammed through cap and trade which is going to kill jobs, increase costs for everyone on everything, and is yet another nail in America's coffin. If you voted for a Democrat or Obama your hand is on the hammer's handle and yes, I damn you. Borofin, June 26, 2009.

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07-01-09 9:11 PM

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Franken is a sociopath and this is just another affirmation of the insanity that infected the nation last election--the consequences of which may prove fatal after a long, lingering death.

"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right,"--Hugo Chavez, June 2, 2009

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Gandol teh Pirate

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07-02-09 1:22 AM

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What's a sociopath, and what qualifies Franken as one. This question is for Boro since he strung those ideas together.

Tom (and Diane)

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Morkenlar

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07-02-09 7:39 AM

While I would love a filibuster proof Senate for two years...

You love the idea, and I cringe at the thought. Ug. Lot to talk about in a few weeks, Mu . . . I gotta convince you you're wrong on this one. It's bad for either party to have that much domination of Congress. (and I think we'll soon see a few perfect examples of why)

PS - Mu, check yer damn email.

Mork

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ellocopato

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07-03-09 2:38 PM

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Muerta wrote:

Very strange water, indeed!

I think that many Democrats look at this guy and say, shoo. While I would love a filibuster proof Senate for two years (it won't be next election run through), he is not who I would have chosen.

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Why would you ever want a time where that legislation can go through without an opposing voice with the ability to at least stop it?

That's the whole point of how the constitution was designed with checks & balances. But there would be no balance.

Fillibusters were a last grasp for a minority view to at least be forced.

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Muerta

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07-04-09 8:30 AM

Legend in the making...
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Why would you ever want a time where that legislation can go through without an opposing voice with the ability to at least stop it?

For the mere amusement of reading more of Borofin's posts?

Because my ultimate goal is to destroy this country and watch the Founding Fathers roll over in their graves?

Actually, there are two reasons:

1. I want to see where this political machine is going to lead us

2. I want the American People to change that political machine come 2010.

Everyone did such a sidestep from Bush that we have gone overboard in our response- overboard so much that Minnesota would vote Al Franken into Congress.

We need to step back and look at what has happened, and make better choices come next year.

I would love to predict, for example, what Connecticut is going to do senatorially. Lieberman and Dodd have both been extremely controversial figures during the last four years and are (essentially) Democrats. Are we going to keep them? Rosenthal is talking about moving forward and challenging Dodd. He would be quite the opponent but he is still a Democrat. What Republican can stand up to the two of them?

I want this Congress to be the wake-up call for America. (aside from a few personal things that I would like to see happen that them there Republicans would stop if they could).

The despicable, vile, traitorous, democrat motherfuckers in the house just rammed through cap and trade which is going to kill jobs, increase costs for everyone on everything, and is yet another nail in America's coffin. If you voted for a Democrat or Obama your hand is on the hammer's handle and yes, I damn you. Borofin, June 26, 2009.

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Borofin

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07-04-09 12:52 PM

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Ello, if you are confused then read Liberal Fascism, now available in paperback and simply observe the moves of this congress and administration.

"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right,"--Hugo Chavez, June 2, 2009

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Gandol teh Pirate

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07-04-09 3:36 PM

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Still waiting for Boro to answer my question directed at him earlier in this thread. Name calling is fun, until somebody asks you if you even know what the words that were used even mean...

Tom (and Diane)

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Soygen

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07-06-09 9:57 AM

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Gandol teh Pirate wrote:
Still waiting for Boro to answer my question directed at him earlier in this thread. Name calling is fun, until somebody asks you if you even know what the words that were used even mean...

The appropriate answer has not been blogged yet.

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