We now live in Florida and any wines made locally pretty much suck, so directing them or taking them to local vineyards isn't an option. Does anyone have any suggestions how to turn them into winos?
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Dulcinea68 |
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Nick and I have some friends that are interested in learning to drink and appreciate wine. I started appreciating wines when I found a local, family-owned
vineyard when I lived in MD that took the time to teach you about their wines and wine in general during tastings and events at the vineyard. Nick's
introduction to wines happened when he was in the military in Germany and again he learned to appreciate local wines first and firsthand from the vineyard.
We now live in Florida and any wines made locally pretty much suck, so directing them or taking them to local vineyards isn't an option. Does anyone have any suggestions how to turn them into winos?
Last Edited By: Dulcinea68 10-19-07 2:11 PM.
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Feydakin Rainsong |
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I feel your pain. Florida muscadine grapes are horrible. We went with some friends to a winery in St. Augustine where the wines were all derived from muscadine
and it was pretty bad. By comparison, when we were visiting those same friends on Long Island a few months ago, we hit a few wineries north of Montauk, and
that was a HUGE difference.
If you have dinner parties with those friends, you could just introduce them to wine that way. Make mini wine-tasting events out of it by having a small variety of wines with hors d'oeurves before dinner, or a different wine with each course, and explain why you've paired particular wines with the food. You have to be able to explain it yourself, though, which is the nice thing about relying on the expertise of the people at a vineyard/winery. They generally know their product very well, as opposed to you opening random_bottle_of_wine_01 and trying to tell someone what to expect. The upside of that, though, is that you can use it as an excuse to drink a lot of wine in order to "practice." :) |
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Kendien |
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I had written up a really nice and descriptive reply, but this piece of shit Yuku ate it.
My advice is to have varietal nights along with using Oz Clarke's Encyclopedia of the Grapes to provide much of the pertinent information regarding the varietal and it's history, regions and composition of flavors. Varietal nights are just how they sound. Pick a varietal such as Pinot Noir and provide 4ish bottles of Pinot Noir with a meal. Taste them all with or without food. Most wine purveyors have tasting notes available for their wines or can get them online from the winery directly. Have those hand, too. Also note that tasting notes are usually a composition of a number of palates. It isn't ONE taster that is getting all of those flavors, textures and aromas. So don't feel that you just HAVE to get all of those from the wine you are drinking to successfully enjoy said wine. Local wines, however, aren't really for drinking in some regions. Unfortunately, yours seems to be one of those regions that just doesn't have a very good area for grape growing/wine making. I'd also be happy to send you a couple bottles of nice starter wines that are somewhat inexpensive to help you out getting some more converts into the fold ;) Ask any questions you have and I'll help you find the answers. |
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Kayso Gnomehater |
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If you enjoy fine dining and it's something you do often, you can build up a relationship with a sommelier (wine steward) at a local place.
We used to frequent a great place in Houston with an excellent sommelier. Once she found out we were interesting in learning as well as drinking, she would spend the time to talk with us as well as recommend things. Two great things she would do: If we found a nice bottle we liked that was too expensive to be a daily drinker, she would pour us samples of similar and less expensive wines to try. Also, she would sometimes be able to pair us up with another person/couple and let us "split" an expensive wine that would normally be sold only by the bottle. My wife and I got to try a small glass of Mouton-Rothschild '82 a few years back on our anniversary because she broke the bottle and sold a couple of glasses at a premium to another party. |
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Muerta |
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I hope that Yuku had a nice Chianti to accompany the post that it ate :) I have followed Kendien's recommendations a number of times and found them to be very tasty bottles. One thing to remember about wines is the concept of marriage- that many wines are often created to accompany certain types of foods or very particular dishes, and their flavors are enhanced by particular dishes. While not a wine, a Belgian Beer such as Duvel or Goliath, is best drank with hot curried dishes because the strong taste matches the curry well. Seasons also will vary the taste of the wine. A drought, a heat wave or exceptionally rainy summer can all affect the way that the wine tastes for that year. I think it is 2003 that France had a huge heat wave that resulted in some exceptional red wines. Finally, remember that individual taste as alot to do with it as well. I don't like really sweet wines or ones with strong fruity tastes to them. I tend to seek drier, more subtle wines so, for example, I tend to avoid Moscato's. Connecticut is starting to develop some very nice vineyards- although the Northeast's focus is primarily white wines. Kendien can tell you about the wines of the Pacific Northwest but I find that the Northeastern whites tend to be drier than the Pacific Northwestern ones- again a matter of personal taste. Overall, the best thing to do is get out there and just start sampling with some of the more general wines. I find that Australian wines, particularly Yellowtail, are easy to mix and match with a meal and are reasonably priced although amazingly difficult to uncork. Young Bordeaux's are also fun to experiment with, and can generally be bought for between $6-9 a bottle. The nice thing about wines is that they are fun and if you are willing to take a chance here and there, you can be pleasantly surprised with the results. I am the cook in our family; my husband the vinophile so very often I have to tell him what I am making prior to the purchase so that he can pick the appropriate bottle to accompany.
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Feydakin Rainsong |
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my husband the vinophile Not to nit-pick, but the correct word is "oenophile." :) |
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Muerta |
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I know that. :) I was just trying to be funny :( I love to butcher the English Language in the early morning hours.
Arianna Huffington (on McCain and Iraq): It's his Viagra.
Steven Colbert: I guess then the warning label should be, if your erection lasts more than 100 years, pull out! |
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Feydakin Rainsong |
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Well, then it's all good. :)
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Feydakin Rainsong |
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Yuku double posts suck ass.
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Kendien |
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Connecticut is starting to develop some very nice vineyards- although the Northeast's focus is primarily white wines. Kendien can tell you about the wines of the Pacific Northwest but I find that the Northeastern whites tend to be drier than the Pacific Northwestern ones- again a matter of personal taste.Absolutely. The Northeastern region of the U.S. and Canada are making some fantastic whites. They are no longer known for just their late harvest and ice wine concoctions. Their Semillon, Viognier, Chardonnay and even some of their moderate reds are doing splendidly. New Jersey actually has a number of good value wineries. I can see them becoming a force to be reckoned with as the vines age and the winemakers gain experience and finesse. The Finger Lakes region is one of the most exciting wine regions in the New World right now. Making flavorful, crisp whites that really are delicious. There are sooooo many people tired of the over-oaked Chardonnay from California, that this is a blessing for them. For good crisp whites I've had to search to Italy, Slovenia and Spain since most there are fermented in stainless and see mainly older oak barrels and no malolactic fermentation. Seriously though, the book I recommended is really great for ANYone who is looking to broaden their horizons on varietals, regions and the history of grapes. It really is a fantastic book. I'm also serious about sending you a couple good bottles, Dulci. Let me know if you are up for it =) |
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