This time it's the Boy Scouts. Some good commentary there too. It's just so pathetic and there is no doubt that the US is heading this way too.
Scouts banned from eating burgers and bangers
- because of religious beliefs
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Borofin |
More PC Insanity from the UK |
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This time it's the Boy Scouts. Some good commentary there too. It's just so pathetic and there is no doubt that the US is heading this way too.
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That is pathetic. The scouts are a ruined organization. They lost their principles and crashed and burned.
They should build a fire and cook the fucking vegetarians. |
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Ididar Tzan |
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Some of the issues talked about make sense ... some are overreaction. The problem I have with the article is lumping them all in one pot. The fires I can see.
If they had a huge fire in the region I can see why they don't want them making fires. The same thing happens all over the place if its been an usually dry
season or people are concerned about forest fires. That's not PC, its just sanity. The veggie food? Overreaction. The lights, laptops, etc? Frankly just a
sad sign of our times. Nothing to do with PC just a sign that the "always connected" lifestyle that our young people are getting used to is being
pushed into all aspects of society. Air Cadet camps now they get to bring laptops and such to and can keep in touch with people. Used to be you showed up with
your uniforms, some sports clothes, and not much else. Now you get to bring nearly your entire bedroom with you. Sad ... not PC ... just changing times and
technology. The only thing truely PC was the issue of veggie food. World peace we talked about when I was in scouts. The issue of boating is more to do with
parents wanting to sue your ass than anything PC.
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Aanmery |
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The principles are still the same but society has changed.Oh my god that has to be the dumbest damn statement he could have made. Scouting for me was getting away into the woods, killing shit, and getting away from the women-folk. Pretty much a smaller version of a hunting or fishing trip in my adult life. Veggie burgers? omfg... |
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Kayso Gnomehater |
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Oh my god that has to be the dumbest damn statement he could have made
Followed by two sentences that in no way support why the statement was dumb. Society has changed. It's always changing. You can argue if it's for the better or the worse, but change is the only constant. |
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Kendien |
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Next thing you know, they'll forgo the knot tying and other merit badges for My Space update merit badges...
It's a shell of it's former self, unfortunately. While it may be true that society does indeed change, that doesn't mean that the principles being taught or that have been taught necessarily need to change along with it. |
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fatesdefiance |
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Scouts is about learning how to survive and prosper in the natural environment. It's also about learning responsibility, civic duty, and personal
discipline. It's not about being as politically correct as possible, nor is it really about meditations upon world peace. Thankfully, at least in the BSA
things aren't that bad (or they weren't when I was a Boy Scout) yet. I really hope they don't go there either, but things don't look good based
on the news of the past few years.
I agree with one of the comments on the article: Lord Baden-Powell is doubtless turning in his grave to see what his creation has become.
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Darkhon Enchanter |
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Saw this thread title, immediately said to myself, "someone has linked a Daily Mail silly-season story".
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vizco |
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Next thing you know, they'll forgo the knot tying and other merit badges for My Space update merit badges...I dunno about the Boy Scouts, but the Girl Scouts have had all sorts of computer-related "merit badges" for ages. I dunno if they still have knot-tying or knot. ![]() Harmony of Souls : My Quiver All this science I don't understand; it's just my job five days a week. |
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Borofin |
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It's so PC to deny PC is happening.
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Kendien |
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I dunno if they still have knot-tying or knot.I see what you did there. |
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fatesdefiance |
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I dunno about the Boy Scouts, but the Girl Scouts have had all sorts of computer-related "merit badges" for ages.I remember visiting a computer center at a local business and attending a computer-related seminar at SMSU for a merit badge when I was in Scouts, back in the 80s.
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Ganders |
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Scouts is about learning how to survive and prosper in the natural environment Pfft. May still be that way in the US, but it hasn't been like that in the UK for more than a generation. |
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Graz Tundrawolf |
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Meh! I remember getting one of the first computer merit batdges in scouts.
We used a Timex Sinclair 1000 for the programming bit. 10 Print "hello world"; 20 Goto 10 l33t skillz even back in the 80s.
There are just two rules of governance in a free society: Mind your own business. Keep your hands to yourself. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Ididar Tzan |
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Obviously, different countries are going to evolve differently when it comes to things like scouting. I'd imagine that the UK, with its population density
today, is hardly too worried about wildnerness survival. Then again, maybe they are. I dunno. I just don't picture the UK as having huge tracts of untamed
wilderness like parts of America and Canada still do. Here I can definately see a benefit to wilderness survival. I can leave my house and be miles from
civilization in ... well ... the time it takes me to move a few miles. I can mountain bike for 2-3 hours and see nothing but trees for the vast majority of
that.
Places where such skills are of no benefit I see no reason to learn them just because ... well ... its the way it used to be. |
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Federiko EQ |
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Aanmery wrote: Somehow I think that goes against one of Baden-Powell's stated principles... A scout is friend to animals. He should save them as far as possible from pain and should not kill any animal unnecessarily, even if it is only a fly. |
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lol Graz.
My best Scouts memory is my Dad, (who can do anything) and I creating a lifesize milkable cow for some project. It was a huge hit. I don't remember any computer related stuff at that time but there were a few PC's available. I had a Radio Shack Color Computer! I wrote some dungeons and dragons multiple choice style adventures in BASIC on it and stored the programs on cassette tapes with a companion tape recorder which was F'n cool I'll tell you. |
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Graz Tundrawolf |
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Not to turn this into a 'geek cred' thread but...
Did anyone else have a C64/Vic20 and hand key in the games out of the PC magazines? I can't remember what it was called, but they'd print pages and pages of hex code you'd have to key in. Each line came with a checksum and if you hosed your entry, you'd have to go back and retype all 40 characters or whatever it was. You'd get done with this three day keying marathon only to find out the game sucked... Or your crappy kmart brand tape failed and it didn't save. Oh... the agony.
There are just two rules of governance in a free society: Mind your own business. Keep your hands to yourself. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Ganders |
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Aye, I remember those days.
I also remember coming home from my first year at university and missing Tetris so badly I ended up writing my own C64 version in assembler. I also owned a book which contained a full disassembly of all the ROMs and actually understood them at the time, and knew 6510 machine code well enough to code without an assembler. All of which, of course, has dribbled out of my brain now. Back in the day I definitely won on the geekness. |
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Graz Tundrawolf |
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Your geek fu is strong young Ganders. But I claim the master's title due to my having run one a BBS off my C64 using a 300 baud modem. NEENER!
There are just two rules of governance in a free society: Mind your own business. Keep your hands to yourself. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Ganders |
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Bah... you win - I never had a modem back then. But do you still have a C64 in the corner of your bedroom? ;-)
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Borofin |
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Time for another awsome Daily Mail story!
This one is a story on nutter nanny state requirements. Pensioner told she can't tend flowerbed unless she erects warning signs and wears a fluorescent jacket She has needed little more than a trowel and a dedicated green thumb to turn this village flowerbed into a work of art.
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Ganders |
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Borofin, seriously - you really need to stop posting Daily Mail stories about "PC gone mad", especially during silly season. It's a bit like me
starting to post articles from the Socialist Worker to "prove" that capitalism is evil.
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Borofin |
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Would you rather I post articles about whites fleeing the
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Ididar Tzan |
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Is it from the Daily Mail?
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Ganders |
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Would you rather I post articles about whites fleeing the UK England in huge numbers? I'd rather you stopped wasting everyones time posting dumbass articles from that shameful excuse for a paper. They are the worst kind of sensationalist drivel, and it's ironic that someone who spends a lot of time blasting the mainstream media for producing biased gibberish, would reproduce precisely that when it fits his own agenda. If you really must talk about these "whites fleeing England" then sure, post away - I can't say it sounds like anything I've come across from here in, err, England but I'm game for a laugh. |
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Kayso Gnomehater |
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Borofin,
I'm beginning to realize that Cultural Marxism has too great of a strangle hold on the throat of lady liberty for us to ever recognize it for the grave threat that it truly is. By the time we realize what's happening, it will most likely be too late. Once the EU and the UK England fully submit to the Mohammedan agenda, the last geographical barrier that prevents them from launching a full-blown cultural attack on America will have fallen. I am convinced the only answer is for you to take your message directly to the people of the UK England. And by directly, I mean you need to leave the United States and take the fight directly to the cultural jihadists where they live. I'm asking you to please, please fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here at home. I'm sure Ganders can give you a place to crash indefinitely and provide you with a stipend to cover basic living expenses. Keep fighting the good fight and know that we'll miss you. God bless and Godspeed. |
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Morkenlar |
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Once the EU and the UK England fully submit to the Mohammedan agenda, the last geographical barrier that prevents them from launching a full-blown cultural attack on America will have fallen. I am convinced the only answer is for you to take your message directly to the people of the UK England. And by directly, I mean you need to leave the United States and take the fight directly to the cultural jihadists where they live. I'm asking you to please, please fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here at home.OK, Kayso, THAT was funny. lol
Mork
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Borofin |
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Actually it's a communist inspired agenda being carried out and the Muhammadans are filling the void left by it in Europe and hispanics in America.
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